The Trouble with the Truth Movement

ckekinit Says:

Jan 3, 2009 - This was good ....Thanks

haarpcloud911 Says:

Jan 3, 2009 - ....working together. I also believe that the Great Whore starts with Israel! They control the Vatican. It's all part of the Beast System.This is THE MYSTERY BABYLON. THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS. THE GREAT WHORE.Satan is extremely intelligent! He has infiltrated from the inside from the beginning! He started by taking Angels down with him! ANGELS!! Not man, ANGELS!!This system is The Synagogue of Satan.And it is in every single religion!And every single household!We are being lied to!

haarpcloud911 Says:

Jan 3, 2009 - You're an intelligent man joopq, find me the proof of Hitler being a Rothschild. I have found things that connect him to the Rothschild's. His mother was a servant in the Rothschild Manor when a certain Rothschild lived there alone. He was known for sexually subduing his servants. Just like there is no actual proof that Barbara Bush is Aleister Crowley's Daughter, but she is!I believe that you will find that the Rothschilds took control of the Vatican's money way back. I believe they're....

haarpcloud911 Says:

Jan 3, 2009 - I'd like to say that it may be visa versa, the Vatican may control Israel!Or they just may be in it 50-50.Not so sure about this thing.

joopq Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - i agree with alot of this but not all haarp. i too have wondered whats the balance of power between the "jews that say they are but arent" and the black magicians of the vatican. i think he truth lies somewhere in between phelps and mike piper lol. the tie that binds them is not their supposed jewish heritage, i think the roths contributing to the holocaust is evident they dont have loyaty to their fake "race" i thikn the tie that binds is the mystery school religions they practice...

joopq Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - ...the jews have the oracles and the vatican has the archeological artificats and secret teachings of egypt. so since the priests rule the kings it boils down to what priests have the most and more powerful teachings. which one? i dont know. who has more political power, i imagine the vatican. they have been the world super power for the last 2000 years and only got surpassed by the kings of saxons wealth...not their knowledge though. the "jews" made monatary headway and deals with key peoples

joopq Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - but in th end its all zionism in one respect; they all want jeruselam. they all want to be able to rebuild the temple on top of the al asque mosque. thats what all the hubub is about if you break it all down (or up...to the top)they have both infoltrated and work hand in hand for a long time but the vatican as an establishment is much more founded and maybe more powerful. i dont care if hitler is or isnt a roth though.

joopq Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - "there is no actual proof that Barbara Bush is Aleister Crowley's Daughter, but she is!"cmon haarp, be objective and scientifc about your coclusions. you should say that she very likely is and seems like she would be (thats what i say). i mean you said it yourself, ther is no proof. if there is no proof (or ou dont have any) its not reasonable to say she IS... is implies knowledge. i dont care if she is or not. wasnt kenedy illuminati bloodline? and he was ...good (in my determination)

joopq Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - b bush obviously is NOT , so the actions matter more then the family line. the family line only matters in terms of if it makes someone more or less likely to be GOOD or not, so i look at the big picure. she could be related to ghandi for all it matters, she acts evil is the importnat thing. i havent seen anything to make me believe theroths are in control of the vstican money. iv heard, and it seems right, that they are the bankers FOR the vatican (jesuit controlled banks). blame jews is rome

joopq Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - "jews" wwith no loyaty just self interest allow the jews to take blame since it all works for the same end they are on; polytheism and being triocked by satan. satan hates the real jews. what beeter way to make the jews look bad then to infiltrate them and have them do things that makes people hate jews? why do you think they have always been known for being hated? but these are not jews most likely!the fake jews and the vat illuminati are all intwined and use fake labels of christian and jew

haarpcloud911 Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - I tell it how I see it. If you read the story of how Barb's mom was there at the right time with Aleister, it becomes very evident, especially if your looking at their pictures, side by side!The Kennedy brothers wanted to abolish the FED! They also spoke against secret societies!Were they good? Yeshua says no man is good but Yahweh! Were they men with morals? They were both womanizers! God only knows what else! Could they have possibly wanted to make certain that they were in control?Think

joopq Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - yes i have read abotu this story, dont know if it is true or how i would verify that her mom was there, just heard hashem say she was (with the parsons i think it was, supposedly that is)i didnt mean good as in that sense. no man is all good or all bad. but i mean relatively good for a president and an illuminati. i mean he tried to take down the fed and also he refused to let israel get nukes. he did give them minor weapons but opposed supporting israel like we do now.

joopq Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - did you watch that project camelot bill deagle interview i sent? it had some interesting stuff about the roths. he says that the pindar (top reptilain king....i know, but maybe theres some truth to it) came to him and it is a rothschild. also john todd claims the rothschilds are the most powerful illuminati family and in fact the true creators of the illuminati. i see conflicting veiws of the illuminati genesis story lol/i need to look into john todd finally, very bizare

haarpcloud911 Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - I had a very crazy thought the other day! Could we be taking over Persia to get to the spot of The Tower of Babel? I know everyone thinks we just want the oil, but I think that's more or less a cover. I haven't really believed the oil thing for a long time now, but I'm always coming up with something new. First it was just Babylon in general. Secret knowledge, archeological finds, and such. The Tower spot to them is probably more important than The Dome, I think so anyway. What do you say?

haarpcloud911 Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - Not yet I haven't. I'll def check it.

Krealix Says:

Jan 4, 2009 - You make a good point, but i think infighting within the truth movement is exactly what the NWO wants, you have to realize that most "truthers" arent jew haters or christian haters seeing that most of follow Alex Jones who happens to be a Christian and never preaches anti-jew/anti-Israel. We cant waste our time bickering over religion we must fight the common enemy the NWO, however you still raise good points

daniel987878 Says:

Jan 5, 2009 - I agree with this video.

joopq Says:

Jan 5, 2009 - hmm, could be. havent thought about it so i dont really have an opinion. the war i would say (and all others) are for money, resources, prophecy, etc. i mean the oil is one idea, pulling russia into a war with us is another, also the stargates in iran is an idea...i think all these are possible and maybe all the reasons and there are more too. i dont think the illuminati ever do anything for just one purpose or function. they like killing many birds with one stone (like a nuke)

wreckerpecker Says:

Jan 5, 2009 - I said this 2 days before Katrina..A lot of people are gonna die.The world is made DEPENDENT.In the end, it's that you were used, abused, thrown away. Thats all.The situation we have here is that you are ALLOWED to live.Timewave zero says in a few days, novelty is gonna dip sharply.

Iwonttellmyname Says:

Jan 5, 2009 - It is the truth indeed! Even the best of the goyim (non-Jews) should all be killed. (Soferim 15). From Jewish Talmud. 09:43 So wake up realize it and hopefully we can win this thing...

haarpcloud911 Says:

Jan 6, 2009 - I believe that the Tower was far more than just a building trying to reach heaven. I believe the Tower was a Star Gate to open dimensions.The punishment from Yahweh of breaking up the people by confusing their language was not just because they were learning how to use bricks and mortar. They were using forbidden knowledge!What have they been doing ever since the Garden?Using Forbidden knowledge!What has Yahweh warned us not to do ever since the Garden?Use Forbidden Knowledge!end

joopq Says:

Jan 6, 2009 - i think i heard that somewhere before. nimrod was supposedly a powerful magican.the pyramids had a specific quarried structure that made them conducive for energy transformation as well as the shape

RenewableFuel Says:

Jan 7, 2009 - Stop spreading rumours you dumb fuck.

watchinshadows Says:

Jan 7, 2009 - Hmm.. interesting.

pigbenis912 Says:

Jan 8, 2009 - definately a lot of good points in this video. we do have to stop bickering amongst ourselves and focus on the people in control thats for sure